Plastics is the future or so Benjamin was lectured in the movie ‘The Graduate’. Now they may actually be seen as part of our past. Environmentalists are making a strong case that the convenience of ‘single use’ plastics, like straws and bags, isn’t worth the environmental damage they can do, particularly to the world’s oceans. And state and local governments, as well as companies, like Starbucks, Burger King and McDonald’s are testing ways to phase out some forms of sipping and packaging. Yale University’s former recycling director, C. J. May, now leading similar efforts in Waterbury, Connecticut, joins us for a conversation about this topic and recycling, in general. Jon and Larry both interview this wonderfully engaging environmental advocate and educator.